Last day of the Old 3rd.

[geordieyoung]

RSM Ward. Pulling down the flag on the old Third at the amalgamation with the 6th RTR at.??







C. Squadron S/Major J,B.French meets Chelsea Pensioner Fred Bridge. Fred was 68 at the time (1959) and reputed to be the only Chelsea Pensioner to have served with the tank brigade - which was the foreruner of the 3rd & 6th Royal tank Regiments.




3rd & 6th Tank Regiments
Amalgamate.

[son-of-tiny]

In 1959, it amalgamated with the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment without change of title
31 Oct 1959 at Sennelager Germany would be a good guess ?
3rd were in Detmold Germany soprano 54 correct me if I am wrong
The old man was SHQ 6 RTR OC's Radio Opp then and went to Detmold as some of the Regiment went to Hong Kong will dig out photos

[soprano54]

admin said:

In 1959, it amalgamated with the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment without change of title
31 Oct 1959 at Sennelager Germany would be a good guess ?
3rd were in Detmold Germany soprano 54 correct me if I am wrong

Nah Munster I believe!

[geordieyoung]

Yes your right it was Sennelager/ He was on the old windmill.

[geordieyoung]

Amalgamation 3rd/6th
John Gater Mon 2 Nov 1959





11Trp with both Fred Idia & Bill Reed as Trp Sgt's.

[geordieyoung]

Yes, John Gater I am told got a rollicking for his belt not worn correctly off Stan Patrick.

[birdseye]

Would that have been Sammy Patrick ?

[birdseye]

Come on surely a Cpl has two bars !!!

[ironjon]

Very true mate, perhaps pecker has gave you acting cpl and the stripes not been issued yet ??

[son-of-tiny]

blood hell lads give us a break have to upload rank image as program link not finished but iam working on it

[geordieyoung]

birdseye. Never heard him called Sammy before. Stan Patrick was the Adjutant to C.O. Lt.Col, P.A. Vaux after the amalgamation between 3rd/6th in 1959. Had a drink with him on Wed at Newcastle Branch RTR Association. Never fails to impress me. Great bloke.

[cobra19]

geordieyoung said:

birdseye. Never heard him called Sammy before. Stan Patrick was the Adjutant to C.O. Lt.Col, P.A. Vaux after the amalgamation between 3rd/6th in 1959. Had a drink with him on Wed at Newcastle Branch RTR Association. Never fails to impress me. Great bloke.

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There was a SAMMY Patrick Geordie, ISTR he was the QM at one time in Detmold, I think or was it Jolly Folly 1st time round?

[geordieyoung]

Cobra19. As I said I have never heard him called Sammy at any time but I will find out for you. He Lives in North Shields. Answers to Stan now. I'll get back to you

[soprano54]

soprano54 said:

admin said:

In 1959, it amalgamated with the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment without change of title
31 Oct 1959 at Sennelager Germany would be a good guess ?
3rd were in Detmold Germany soprano 54 correct me if I am wrong

Nah Munster I believe!

Talking bollox the Regiment were in Detmold at the time of amalgamation and had been for about eleven years!!!

[son-of-tiny]

3 RTR was in detmold correct answer 6 RTR was in Sennelager also correct ( do like regimental history )

3 RTR

1945 Germany BAOR
1948.01 England: Gosport
1948.03 England: Warminster School of Infantry
1948.09 England: Bovington [strategic reserve]
1949.07 Hong Kong & Korea
1952.10 Germany: Detmold 33 Armd Bde
1956.04 Germany: Detmold 12 Inf Bde
1958.04 Germany: Detmold 5 Inf Bde
1957.03 Germany: Detmold 20 Armd Bde
1959.10.31 amalgamated at Sennelager with 6th Royal Tank Regiment without change of title
1962.08 England: Catterick
1964.02 Germany: Hohne 7 Armd Bde [first Chieftain regt]
1968.01 England: Tidworth
1969.12 Germany: Wolfenbüttel I Corps (recce)
1973.01 (Northern Ireland)
1973.05 Germany: Wolfenbüttel I Corps (recce)
1974.07 (Northern Ireland)
1974.11 Germany: Hohne 7 Armd Bde
1976.05 England: Tidworth 5 Inf Bde
1978.01 England: Tidworth 8 Field Force
1979.05 Germany: Paderborn 3 Armd Div
1981.01 Germany: Paderborn 11 Armd Bde
1986.01 England: Bovington RAC Centre Regt
1988.02 Germany: Hemer 11 Armd Bde
1992.06 Germany: Fallingbostel

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6 RTR

1942.08.01 Iraq, Syria and Egypt GHQ
1942.12.30 7 Armd Bde
1945.05 Austria
1945.10 Italy & Austria
1947.07 Egypt
1948 England: Worksop 49 Armd Div training regt
1952.01 Germany: Münster 20 Armd Bde
1956.02 UK TA - various locations training regt
1956.08 UK 34 Armd Bde
1956.11 (Suez) 34 Armd Bde
1956.11 Jordan & Libya
1958.06 one sqn to Cyprus
1959? Germany: Sennelager


Amalgamations
In 1953 Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II became Colonel-in-
Chief of The Royal TankRegiment following the passing of
King George VI,
With the advent of the Suez Crisis in 956,amphibious ‘Buffalos” of 7th RTR and elements of 6th RTR served with the Anglo-French invasion force. The action was only halted by a United Nations call for a cease fire, Changes in Britain’s defence policy followed the Suez situation and The Royal Armoured Corps was reduced by six regiments, three cavalry and three Royal Tank Regiments.In order to achieve this, on 3rd
April 1959 at Hohne, 4th and 7th RTR were amalgamated with the new title 4th Royal Tank Regiment. Later that same year, on 3 I st October at Sennelager, 3rd and 6th RTR amalgamated as 3rd Royal Tank Regiment. At Fallingbostel on lst July 1960, 5th and 8th RTR amalgamated as 5th Royal Tank Regiment.
Thus the Royal Tank Regiment now consisted of five
Regular and three Territorial Army Regiments, all of whom
were presented with Standards (the first ever received by the
Regiment) by the Colonel-in-Chief at Buckingham Palace on
27th October 1960.
In the 1960s and 1970s life settled down to world wide service, with the Regiment being seen - often operating as detached Squadrons - in Aden, Bahrain, Borneo, Cyprus, Germany, North Africa, Northern Ireland and the Trucial Oman States amongst others.
On 1st April 1967 4Oth/4 1st RTR (TA), the last remaining TA’ regiment of the RTR, amalgamated with The Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry on the reorganisation of the Territorial Army.
On 7fh December 1969 5th Royal Tank Regiment was disbanded.
In the I970s and I 980s all four RTR served as infantry for a number of operational tours in Northern Ireland.

Further Amalgamations

In October 1992 2RTR and 3RTR were amalgamated to form 2RTR and recruits from London, Kent, Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Bristol and Somerset . A year later in October 1993, I RTR and 4RTR amalgamated to form I RTR , recruiting from Liverpool North West of England, Glasgow and Edinburgh

[tanky]

hi again cobra did you get my mail regarding fred ida ?

[arthur3bums]

admin said:

3 RTR was in detmold correct answer 6 RTR was in Sennelager also correct ( do like regimental history )

3 RTR

1973.01 (Northern Ireland)
1973.05 Germany: Wolfenbüttel I Corps (recce)
1974.07 (Northern Ireland)
1974.11 Germany: Hohne 7 Armd Bde Did Fally slip up the road a bit then???

1976.05 England: Tidworth 5 Inf Bde
1978.01 England: Tidworth 8 Field Force
1979.05 Germany: Paderborn 3 Armd Div
1981.01 Germany: Paderborn 11 Armd Bde
1986.01 England: Bovington RAC Centre Regt
1988.02 Germany: Hemer 11 Armd Bde
1992.06 Germany: Fallingbostel

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Also saw that in Col Forty's book we managed to be posted from Paderborn to Sennelager IN ONE YEAR? for a stint prior to moving to UK??

[soprano54]

arthur3bums said:

admin said:

3 RTR was in detmold correct answer 6 RTR was in Sennelager also correct ( do like regimental history )

3 RTR

1973.01 (Northern Ireland)
1973.05 Germany: Wolfenbüttel I Corps (recce)
1974.07 (Northern Ireland)
1974.11 Germany: Hohne 7 Armd Bde Did Fally slip up the road a bit then???

1976.05 England: Tidworth 5 Inf Bde
1978.01 England: Tidworth 8 Field Force
1979.05 Germany: Paderborn 3 Armd Div
1981.01 Germany: Paderborn 11 Armd Bde
1986.01 England: Bovington RAC Centre Regt
1988.02 Germany: Hemer 11 Armd Bde
1992.06 Germany: Fallingbostel

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Also saw that in Col Forty's book we managed to be posted from Paderborn to Sennelager IN ONE YEAR? for a stint prior to moving to UK??

'Trust House Forte' should get his facts right IMHO then! When we were in 'Falling-Bar-Stool' we were part of 11 Armd Bde (remember 11/3 painted on the vehs!). In Paderborn we were part of of Task Force ? then 6 Armd Bde, remember the 'Rhino'? Everybody stencilled together so it looked like they were shagging! ;D Then in Hemer, again we were in 6 Armd Bde, of course don't forget we had a Sqn in Cyprus when the Regiment were the RAC Centre Regiment and we went to NI in 90/91!!!

[son-of-tiny]

soprano54 thanks for spotting mistake should read fally but i thiink was part of 7th Armoured Brigade Hohne Garrison anyway these were best i could come up with at short notice
nice to see you back mate !!!!!! lets kick some bums

[tanky]

can any body tell me what happened to that cut little kid in the background photos ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[geordieyoung]

He joined the 2nd best Regiment in the country. He liked to walk you see.

[son-of-tiny]

geordieyoung said:

He joined the 2nd best Regiment in the country. He liked to walk you see.

yer and look were it got me mate geordie twats once a fusilier always a fusilier all good lads just couldnt speak lingo

[tanky]

hi geordie are you in touch with cobra i sent him an email but havent heard from him.

[cobra19]

tanky said:

hi geordie are you in touch with cobra i sent him an email but havent heard from him.

Hi Tanky
I'm back off a little caravan trip, and looking for your email even as I type.

Geordie
Why do you keep putting that picture of Kevin Keegan at the bottom of your posts

[cobra19]

soprano54 said:

arthur3bums said:

Also saw that in Col Forty's book we managed to be posted from Paderborn to Sennelager IN ONE YEAR? for a stint prior to moving to UK??

'Trust House Forte' should get his facts right IMHO then! When we were in 'Falling-Bar-Stool' we were part of 11 Armd Bde (remember 11/3 painted on the vehs!). In Paderborn we were part of of Task Force ? then 6 Armd Bde, remember the 'Rhino'? Everybody stencilled together so it looked like they were shagging! ;D Then in Hemer, again we were in 6 Armd Bde, of course don't forget we had a Sqn in Cyprus when the Regiment were the RAC Centre Regiment and we went to NI in 90/91!!!

The only time 3RTR went to HOHNE in strength, was the night of the Vera Lynn concert during the 50th Anniversary celebrations.
Another memorable event during those celebrations was when we all went to the Globe cinema, Padre Mallet was sent to Hamburg to select and invite a show to entertain us. He returned with the entire cast of the Salambo Club, thereafter if we went to Hamburg for the Sunday market on the Docks, calling first at the Salambo to fill in time !!we could gain free entry and a drink just by mentioning 3RTR!!!!!!!!

[geordieyoung]

Nowt tie die wie me mate. The fancy bit on the bottom came from above. I just follow orders like all good Geordies do. Besides it's not Keegan it's Shearer. Keegan had hair.

[billywizz]

I guess names do tend to get changed around a little but must admit I alway remember the QM of 3RTR during the period 1959-64 being called Sammy Patrick. whether Sammy was his true name or not I do not know. The next guy on the scene was Tosh Ham, don't suppose Tosh was his true name either?

[cobra19]

geordieyoung said:

Nowt tee dee wit me mate. The fancy bit on the bottom came from above. I just follow orders like all good Geordies do. Besides it's not Keegan it's Shearer. Keegan had hair.

Hi Geordie
When I was trucking, I used to use the BP truckstop at Birtley a lot and the "Angel" was called "Kevin" then when he turned his back on Newcastle ;D

I was on a caravan site last week with a couple from Suderland who told me the Truckstop is now no more!!

[geordieyoung]

Yes truck stop is no more. I think an estate of houses has been built on the site.
The only time I go over that way is Xmas to stock freezer up. You might have seen
the big balloon floating above Fawcet's the butchers on your travels up and down the A1